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skao_privat hat geschrieben: Es zählt nämlich nicht was vor 40 Jahren gemacht worden st. Das weiß der 5-jährige Junge nämlich nicht mal im Ansatz.

Und viele hier wissen auch nicht mehr wie hier (in D) vor 20 Jahren Football gespielt wurde und wie die Zustände damals waren, denn dann würden vielleicht Manche verschiedene Dinge ganz anders sehen.

rooster hat geschrieben: Ta-dah!

Geiles Teil.

Aber auch Football kann man zu zweit spielen und wenn es nur Ballwerfen ist. Oder OLiner trifft DLiner

@skao_privat

why just 2 "A"'s period? What is your point to this? i kind of sense that perhaps you may not like the presence of Americans on ball clubs for some reason. Am I off on that one? If so, then say it. Why are you against an additional "A" on the line?

Are you a fan, coach, or player? Cant be a coach...why wouldn't you not want an experienced Lineman that your other players could benifit from?

Maybe a player who doesn't want competition at the position.

Fan....then why not unless your a hater?

I am trying to see your point, really.

2 A sind die Regel. Nachvollziehbar. Die Frage, ob jemand etwas implizites explizit vermitteln kann sei dabei erstmal dahin gestellt.

So wenig du verstehst, was das Problem an sich ist, desto weniger siehst den von dir angesprochenen Punkt.

JoelH hat geschrieben:

skao_privat hat geschrieben: Es zählt nämlich nicht was vor 40 Jahren gemacht worden st. Das weiß der 5-jährige Junge nämlich nicht mal im Ansatz.

Und viele hier wissen auch nicht mehr wie hier (in D) vor 20 Jahren Football gespielt wurde und wie die Zustände damals waren, denn dann würden vielleicht Manche verschiedene Dinge ganz anders sehen.

Das interessiert einen 5-jähringe ebenfalls einen Pfurz. Der Aktive von heute hätte da auch nichts von. Das ist Teil der Heldengeschichten ums Lagerfeuer. In manchen gegenden ist es heute noch weitestgehend so, wie vor 20 Jahren. Also kann man das relativ leicht nachvollziehen.

alex_k. hat geschrieben:Hier wäre einfach mal zu vergleichen und zu recherchieren, was 1 x German Bowl kostet und was Werbung während der Saison auf einem solchen Portal, verbunden mit Veröffentlichung von Ergebnissen und Tabellen, kostet. Des weiteren ob das Kultusministerium der LV´s nicht sogar die Finanzierung einer Lehrkräfteausbildung unterstützt.

German Bowl kostet gar nichts, sondern bringt noch Geld. Wären wir ja schön dumm, das Geld vom Ausrichter nicht mehr anzunehmen.

JoelH hat geschrieben:Aber auch Football kann man zu zweit spielen und wenn es nur Ballwerfen ist.

Richtig, man braucht aber mehr Platz als beim Basketball. Andererseits gibt es überall Wiesen. Mein Garten wird grad ständig von 6-8 Kids bevölkert, die sich einen von diesen Pfeifton-Footbällen um die Ohren pfeffern und meine Träublesbüsche häckseln. Allerdings haben die ihre eigene Variante erfunden. Wenn es der Ball hinter eine vorbestimmte Linie schafft, ist das ein Tor und der Gegner spielt Torwart

JoelH hat geschrieben:... Oder OLiner trifft DLiner

Das nennt man Sumo, auch eine Randsportart

Insider II hat geschrieben:

alex_k hat geschrieben:Hier wäre einfach mal zu vergleichen und zu recherchieren, was 1 x German Bowl kostet und was Werbung während der Saison auf einem solchen Portal, verbunden mit Veröffentlichung von Ergebnissen und Tabellen, kostet. Des weiteren ob das Kultusministerium der LV´s nicht sogar die Finanzierung einer Lehrkräfteausbildung unterstützt.

German Bowl kostet gar nichts, sondern bringt noch Geld. Wären wir ja schön dumm, das Geld vom Ausrichter nicht mehr anzunehmen.

Ich glaub dem Alex ging es um die Übertragungskosten (DSF).

@ red baron.......so let me get this straight.

If I translated this correctly, you wish to have the elimination of the American in the GFL and down? Players and coaches? Why? Financial reasons? Nationalist pride? what?

Do you really think all of those people came to the NFLE games to see the European players play?

Do you think teams would do better without an American influence on an American game?

Gi's are far from the paid players who are on the roster...your imports are. I doubt there are more than perhaps 3 "A"'s in the whole GFL that are an ex GI who receives $, oet alone over the money that can officiallly be taxed. I think that is horrible to tell Gi's to find another hobby because you wish not to have their presence. If you can have a roster withthem on it, and they aren't asking for money, then why eliminate them. You MUST have something against Americans being here in Germany period then!

For the paid players,,,,which non "A" has been more productive or can produce like a Crayton, Love, Cooper, and many others. Shit, i mean, they had an international program to send German Nationals to Florida for camps for the NFL! The NFL didnt have to do that...nor did they have to create the NFLE, yet you want to shit on the Americans who are over here and want to contribute?

Maybe the presence of International players from around the world shouldn't be allowed in Fussball....keep it German....no more Latino players, Africans, etc. Keep Bayern Munich and all of the other teams strictly German just like you want to keep it like that in football.

Just ask the fans if they want the elimination of the American in the league. I bet you more say no than yes.

I do agree with you that it needs to start in the schools, but isn't all of Germany's sports separate from the school? Perhaps start contact football at a younger age. Why do they have to start at 14 again? Please tell me it isn't because of physical harm when there is smoking dispensers for any kid to have cigarrettes when they want on the street.

Jeder GI, der sich entscheidet sich in Deutschland zu integrieren, kann sich ordentlich bei einem Verein anmelden und da versuchen spielen. Jeder der allerdings Beitragsfreiheit oder gar Zahlungen dafür vereinbart, sollte sich da mal fragen, ob so etwas Sinn macht.

MAl abgesehen davon: wie würde es sich eigentlich verhalten, wenn die Amerikaner die deutsche Staatsbürgerschaft beantragen würden? Dürften die dann ohne Probleme spielen?

If I understood your post right you are saying for all the "A"s to apply for German citizenship. Are you crazy. I, along with most of the other Americans that live here are proud Americans. Maybe work brought us here or the Goverment. So why should we not be allowed to do what makes us happy while we are over here. That is like me telling a German not to drink beer when they visit America. And how much have the American G.I.s taught to all the small veriens around Germany. I am an American that decided to live in Germany with my wife after I was hurt in Iraq. So does that mean I have to apply to become a German citizen just to play or coach football. Ignorance.

tha Bizness hat geschrieben: If I translated this correctly, you wish to have the elimination of the American in the GFL and down? Players and coaches? Why? Financial reasons? Nationalist pride? what?

I am not baron, but some sentence to this. Its not National pride and it is not Money. We are amateurs and we want to play amateurs on the field. Perhaps not in the GFL but in the lower leagues. I life near Ramstein and i think the Teams around her can get some good players from them. Thy dont need to be payed. Buts its not fair against other small team who dont have that "Ramstein-Option". Thats the Key i the "2As-Problem".

tha Bizness hat geschrieben: Do you really think all of those people came to the NFLE games to see the European players play?

Be sure thet o Problem of the NFLE was, that there were no Localheroes. To se every year a new "Home"team was boring.

Did u seen some days ago the return of Lukas Podoski to Köln? He is just one man, but the hole town belive in him. 20.000 Spectators at the first training. Thats what a team need, Guys where the Fan can belive in.

tha Bizness hat geschrieben: Do you think teams would do better without an American influence on an American game?

I dont think so, we dont need better or more american players, Germany needs a better infrastructure with good coaching.

tha Bizness hat geschrieben: Shit, i mean, they had an international program to send German Nationals to Florida for camps for the NFL! The NFL didnt have to do that...nor did they have to create the NFLE,

The NFL is big global business. They just want to sell their product. And what i said before, the NFL_nationalplayerprogram was a attempt by the NFL to create Localheroes. And after two years now, the NFL sees that the NFLE was also a good program for such secondstring NFL-QBs , not only to talk about Warner. Talk about Delhomme etc.

tha Bizness hat geschrieben: Maybe the presence of International players from around the world shouldn't be allowed in Fussball....keep it German....no more Latino players, Africans, etc. Keep Bayern Munich and all of the other teams strictly German just like you want to keep it like that in football.

A big Problem is, that in some Bundesliga-Games there is not one German on the field. That makes no sence, because young german talents have no chance to play. And whats the result? The last big Title for Germany is dated 1996 European Master.....

tha Bizness hat geschrieben: Just ask the fans if they want the elimination of the American in the league. I bet you more say no than yes.

Dont eliminate them, but dont overrat them either.

tha Bizness hat geschrieben: I do agree with you that it needs to start in the schools, but isn't all of Germany's sports separate from the school?

But if there is Football played in the school you have it easier, as a club, to recruite new Players.

hisdudeness hat geschrieben:If I understood your post right you are saying for all the "A"s to apply for German citizenship. Are you crazy. I, along with most of the other Americans that live here are proud Americans. Maybe work brought us here or the Goverment. So why should we not be allowed to do what makes us happy while we are over here. That is like me telling a German not to drink beer when they visit America. And how much have the American G.I.s taught to all the small veriens around Germany. I am an American that decided to live in Germany with my wife after I was hurt in Iraq. So does that mean I have to apply to become a German citizen just to play or coach football. Ignorance.

Also das Wort Ignoranz, vor allem im Zusammenhang mit einigen Inhalten in diesem Text, ist ganz schön weit aus dem Fenster gelehnt.

Die deutsche Staatsbürgerschaft zu beantragen ist eine Option von vielen

im übrigen ist es so, dass zum Beispiel deutsche Coaches nicht ohne weiteres in den USA ARBEITEN KÖNNEN:

If I understood your post right you are saying for all the "A"s to apply for German citizenship. Are you crazy. I, along with most of the other Americans that live here are proud Americans. Maybe work brought us here or the Goverment. So why should we not be allowed to do what makes us happy while we are over here. That is like me telling a German not to drink beer when they visit America. And how much have the American G.I.s taught to all the small veriens around Germany. I am an American that decided to live in Germany with my wife after I was hurt in Iraq. So does that mean I have to apply to become a German citizen just to play or coach football. Ignorance.

When deciding to live in a country you also accept that country's customs and rules.
So Americans living in Germany have to accept the "A"-Rule. As well as Germans living in America need to accept that they are not allowed to drink beer before the age of 21.