Landesliga 2010 Baden Württemberg

[Fabz44]

na wie ist Eure Meinung zu der Ligeneinteilung ?

und wer Euer Favorit ?

[Parker]

The Beavers are still a clear favorite of mine, often underestimated due to being "Landesliga", and not remembering its only due to the amount of players they have.

The ones they do have know how to move the ball very well

[wall-e]

From what I can tell in the VL thread, the "Landesliga" is no longer the Aufbauliga since the teams now have the same rules as the VL (35 players, etc) and in order to move up to the VL a team will have to come in first place! Having said that, I am dropping my vote for the Red Knights...

[Parker]

I just now realized what they did. This doesnt make any sense at all. If the teams have to follow VL rules, they should be granted VL status.

If the AFVD wants to split the teams, they should make a VL North and VL East instead of just shoving 6 teams into a PL (Purgatory League)

slightly irritating, but out of my hands.

[Fabz44]

also ich denke auch das ein "übergangsjahr" indem man herausfindet wie die spielstärke der teams wirklich ist die adequatere lösung gewesen wäre.

Meiner Meinung nach ist zB Rottenburg bestimmt nicht schlechter als der designierte "topfavorit" Böblingen ( und nicht falsch verstehen... Böblingen macht wirklich einen super job ).
Aber beim Turnier in Ravensburg waren sich Biberach und Böblingen meiner Meinung nach ebenwürdig.


Just my 5 cents

[HIT-THE-FLOOR]

Does anybody in here really believe that the LL Teams can compete with U2?

I put on my reading glasses to make sure that I had read correctly.
who makes decisions like that? they belong in the VL and maybe in the OL
but for sure not in the LL.

just my opinion,,,,, I see everybody crying about 60 to 0 games...

[Neutraler]

ja die liga einteilung ist ein bisschen unglücklich !!! beavers und knights hätten locker oben mitspielen können !!!

[Parker]

Does anybody in here really believe that the LL Teams can compete with U2?

I put on my reading glasses to make sure that I had read correctly.
who makes decisions like that? they belong in the VL and maybe in the OL
but for sure not in the LL.

just my opinion,,,,, I see everybody crying about 60 to 0 games...

Most definitely. I havent seen some of the other teams in that league play, but I have played against the Beavers. Any team that underestimates them will be taking "the long bus ride home"

[Fabz44]

wir werden alles versuchen das es nicht so weit kommt..... lassen wir uns mal überraschen was und wen die so alles auf den platz stellen.


Hauptsache den zweiten mannschaften geht über das jahr hin das spielermaterial nicht aus...

Fair gegenüber den anderen teams wäre es wenn die saison zeitgleich zur gfl / gflII laufen würde.

Ansonsten seh ich da ein recht verzerrtes Bild

[wall-e]

I see everybody crying about 60 to 0 games...

And I see people putting WAYYYYY too much into a GFL team having a second team! They havent done anything yet other than share a field with the first team.

As I have said before in the VL threads, based on this argument Braunschweig Lions II should be killing people right? Do a little research and you will see where they currently play (HInt: It aint even close to the Oberliga). And SURELY you arent suggesting tht the Unicorns have a better program than what has been created in Braunschweig over the last 10 years are you?

This is the same we heard about HT II last year and what happened? 0-9 season...Let's play some games first and then we can see how strong the team is in 2010. Dont get me wrong, I value everyone's opinion and right to have one but please don't piss on the current teams by suggesting they don't even belong on the same field and don't disrespect the current VL and OL teams by suggesting their years of work can be equaled in a few months.

[Guard#54]

wir werden alles versuchen das es nicht so weit kommt..... lassen wir uns mal überraschen was und wen die so alles auf den platz stellen.


Hauptsache den zweiten mannschaften geht über das jahr hin das spielermaterial nicht aus...

Fair gegenüber den anderen teams wäre es wenn die saison zeitgleich zur gfl / gflII laufen würde.

Ansonsten seh ich da ein recht verzerrtes Bild

Was hat das eine den mit dem anderen zu tun?

Die Jungs in der GFL dürfen nicht in die LL zum spielen (BSO)!
Anders herum ist es so das ein LL Spieler nur 3x in der GFL eingesetzt werden darf dann hängt er dort fest und darf nicht mehr LL spielen!

Ich sehe hier kein verzerrtes Bild. Lasst die U2 doch erstmal spielen bevor ihr hier jetzt schon Wellen macht....die Saison wird schon zeigen wo der Weg hinführt!

Nur meine Meinung!

[Fabz44]

naja die ersten 35.......
aber wer sagt wer die 35 sind....da bleibt schon ein gewisser spielraum

als ehemaliger spieler eines ex nordbundesligisten weiss ich aber auch das normalerweise der backup(rechnerisch ja mehr als möglich) einem LL Spieler bei weitem überlegen ist .


Nichts desto trotz scheuen wir uns ja nicht vor der Competition und da hast ja schon auch recht das bisher noch nichts bewiesen wurde.....

We'll see......

[wall-e]

Meiner Meinung nach ist zB Rottenburg bestimmt nicht schlechter als der designierte "topfavorit" Böblingen ( und nicht falsch verstehen... Böblingen macht wirklich einen super job ).
Aber beim Turnier in Ravensburg waren sich Biberach und Böblingen meiner Meinung nach ebenwürdig.

Razorbowll III (2009)
Boeblingen 14 Biberach 0
Ravensburg 24 Biberach 0
Boeblingen 8 Ravensburg 14

Hmmmmmm what Turnier did you see? Biberach was outscored 38-0 by the top two teams. And in the head to head match up they were shutout by the Bears.

VL 2009
Boeblingen 22 Danube 24
Danube 29 Boeblingen 22

And at their best in 2009 do you really think Biberach could have played that competitively against the Danube Hammers??? Still want to make that comparison between Bears and the Beavers?

[HIT-THE-FLOOR]

I see everybody crying about 60 to 0 games...

And I see people putting WAYYYYY too much into a GFL team having a second team! They havent done anything yet other than share a field with the first team..

Learning from the best....

[As I have said before in the VL threads, based on this argument Braunschweig Lions II should be killing people right? Do a little research and you will see where they currently play (HInt: It aint even close to the Oberliga). And SURELY you arent suggesting tht the Unicorns have a better program than what has been created in Braunschweig over the last 10 years are you? .

Well lets start with the GFL Junior Programm.....your turn..wall-e? :arrow:

[This is the same we heard about HT II last year and what happened? 0-9 season...Let's play some games first and then we can see how strong the team is in 2010. Dont get me wrong, I value everyone's opinion and right to have one but please don't piss on the current teams by suggesting they don't even belong on the same field and don't disrespect the current VL and OL teams by suggesting their years of work can be equaled in a few months.

I have a lot of respect for hard work and would never put down a Team or League, but I do question the U2 starting in the LL, ask somebody that has played in a GFL 2nd Team, these Players have been around Football, many of them coming out of a great GFL Junior Team
so we are not talking about 3 Months compared to many Years---

[wall-e]

Well lets start with the GFL Junior Programm.....your turn..wall-e? :arrow:

Speculation is always good but if you are going to point to things like a) its a GFL team's 2nd team and b) they have a good GFL Junior program then you have to compare apples to apples.

It has been proven over and over again by the top GFL teams (Marburg, Braunschweig, Hamburg Blue Devils etc) that having a great or even good GFL team does not equal automatic success for the 2nd team. So if you are going to make speculative statements I am merely saying that you have to see what history has shown us about that.

And as far as the great GFL Juniors comment goes, again I have to refer you to a historical example/comparison -- case in point, the Duesseldorf Panther! They have been setting the standard in Germany for a long time as they have had the NUMBER ONE GFL Junior program since 2002 and about 14 GFLJ championships total. So surely they are kicking ass in the first team with all that young talent coming up year after year right??? I'm sure you know the answer to that question. So again, speculation is good, I like the energy and excitement coming from the Unis but slow down, take a deep breath and dont count your chickens before they hatch.