GFL 2 Süd Week 4

[Muff Potter]

und dann die Kirchdorfer Bananenaktion nicht zu vergessen

[_pinky]

Was wäre Football denn ohne dumme Sprüche, protestierende und schimpfende Coaches und fiese Tricks auf'm Spielfeld. Dann könnten gleich alle Wetthäkeln und wer am schnellsten die Tischdecke fertig hat, hat gewonnen.

Wenn du noch "Umfallen bei Anhauchen" und "Wunderheilung nach Beinahe-Beinamputation" dazunimmst, nennt man es "Fußball".

[Black78]

ssa: pbh -->pbh +35

wp: sh --> wp +21

ka: kw --> ka +10

[gonzales]

SSA vs PBH PBH +21

WP vs SH WP+21

KA vs KW KW+21

[rooster]

ich möchte es mal vorsichtig ausdrücken: wie man in den wald ruft so schallt es zurück. ich kann mich nicht erinnern jemals gehört zu haben, dass sich wildcats spieler so über die teilweise unfaire gangweise ihrer gegenspieler beschwert haben. auf dem spielfeld haben chorknaben nichts zu suchen aber es besteht ein unterschied zwischen harter und überharter bzw unfairer spielweise. für mich jedenfalls war das stuttgarter team in dieser beziehung nicht mit dem fairen team von vor ein paar jahren zu vergleichen. dazu gehören auch late hits oder das (absichtliche?) verdrehen der sprungelenkes eines ballträgers NACH dem tackle. wenn dann das eine odtr andere böse wort seitens der kicrchdorfer kommt sollte man sich in stuttgart erstmal an der eigenen nase packen.

Komisch, das gleiche haben unsere Spieler auch über die Kirchdorfer gesagt. Da war von einigen Nachschlägen, -tretern und Kneifern die Rede.

[rooster]

.... Laut eigenem Spielbericht waren die Stuttgarter ja auch in Kirchdorf schon die bessere Mannschaft und Königsbrunn wurde regelrecht zerlegt..... Wie weit der Spielbericht den Tatsachen entspricht, kann ich nicht beurteilen.

ich schon....er entspricht in keinster weise dem spielverlauf. um zu gewinnen muß man punkten und ssa war genau einmal auch nur in der nähe eines td´s.

Ich hab mir mal die Mühe gemacht und das Spiel grob statistisch und nur auf die Offense gemünzt ausgewertet.

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First Downs: Arrows 12 , Wildcats 6
Yards:       Arrows 220, Wildcats 170
Redzone:     Arrows 3  , Wildcats 1
Ints:        Arrows 2  , Wildcats 2
3-and-outs:  Arrows 2  , Wildcats 5

Also ich kann hieraus durchaus herauslesen, dass die Arrows das bessere Team waren, aber ich gebe Dir Recht, sie haben keine Touchdowns gemacht. Und nur das zählt. Aber auch das geben Sie im Spielbericht ja zu. Und davon zu reden, wie es gelaufen wäre, wenn sie im ersten Drive gescored hätten ist ja auch nicht strafbar.

Aber das ganze ist ja immer subjektiv, schließlich werden die Berichte ja nicht von unabhängigen Pressevertretern geschrieben, sondern von Vereinszugehörigen oder mindestens Nahestehenden.

Für die Arrows heißt das einfach: Beim nächsten Mal einfach scoren und gut is.

[rocker]

Rocker, das mit dem Jugend QB kapier ich grad nicht (ehrlich!)

besser der aus der eigenen jugend gekommen ist... verstehst du es jetzt?!?

[ILoveThisGame]

First Downs: Arrows 12 , Wildcats 6
Yards: Arrows 220, Wildcats 170
Redzone: Arrows 3 , Wildcats 1
Ints: Arrows 2 , Wildcats 2
3-and-outs: Arrows 2 , Wildcats 5

Kirchdorf 12 - Silver Arrows 0...your point?

There is some merit to the argument that the best team does not always win. My personal opinion, you play the Super Bowl Giants versus New England 100 times and New England wins 90 of those 100, But they didn't win it when it counted. Stuttgart is not an established GFL2 Program, Kirchdorf is, regardless of where they are personnel-wise this season. You have no facts to base your argument on - Stuttgart is the better team! You can only make this argument from a fan or player perspective. Being from Stuttgart, I wouldn't expect anything less!

[jdl33]

I'm not saying Stuttgart is the better team, but I will say last Saturday Stuttgart was the more consistent team and felt we let one slip away. As I said before, Kirchdorf made plays when they had to and Stuttgart didn't and a loss is a loss no matter how you cut it. As to the insinuations of cheap shots and dirty play, if you were not at the game on Saturday you have nothing to say. This was a very rough and sometimes dirty game and Kirchdorf did more than their share to make it this kind of game. There was a lot of taunting from the Wildcats side and the officiating crew let it continue throughout the game. If the officials had been more consistent, some of the things that happened during the game would have been prevented. In my opinion the officiating crew was very weak and often times out of position to make calls. They seemed more interested in watching the game than taking care of their responsibilities. When questioned about certain calls they were unable to give an answer that made sense, to anyone who had been around football for more than 20 minutes. Bottom line is Stuttgart is 1 and 1 with a tough game this weekend against the Blackhawks and we will know how that turns out around 1900 on Saturday, until then all the predictions are just a “Wild Ass” guess.

[Corpsegrinder]

... and the officiating crew let it continue throughout the game. If the officials had been more consistent, some of the things that happened during the game would have been prevented. In my opinion the officiating crew was very weak and often times out of position to make calls. They seemed more interested in watching the game than taking care of their responsibilities. When questioned about certain calls they were unable to give an answer that made sense, to anyone who had been around football for more than 20 minutes.

Oh, that's just Bavarian officiating as we've known it for years!

Cya, da Corpse

[Magic29]

ich möchte es mal vorsichtig ausdrücken: wie man in den wald ruft so schallt es zurück. ich kann mich nicht erinnern jemals gehört zu haben, dass sich wildcats spieler so über die teilweise unfaire gangweise ihrer gegenspieler beschwert haben.

Siehst du... genau da liegt das Problem. Den Arrows erging es haar genau so...!

Also... wer hat als erstes "in den Wald hinein gerufen"...? ...bzw. wer von uns vermag das objektiv zu beurteilen...?

Ich persönlich lehne unfaire Spielweisen ab... trickreich - Ja... unfair - Nein... schon gar nicht wenn es gegen die Gesundheit gerichtet ist. Schließlich gibt es auch noch ein Leben außerhalb des Footballplatzes...

Würde ich derartige Tendenzen bei den Arrows feststellen, bzw. in der Vergangenheit beobachtet haben, wäre ich nicht mehr dort.

Ich meine aber durchaus unfaire Taktiken bei einen wenigen Gegnern bemerkt zu haben... aber auch mir fehlt eben, wie schon erwähnt, der objektive Blick dafür.

Die Situationen sind eben in den seltensten Fälle Schwarz/Weiß gefärbt... das sollte uns allen bewusst sein.

[Magic29]

Schlimm wäre ein "Schwoba - Mir könnet alles außer Hochdeitsch und Football" gewesen...

Nenne es subjektives Gehör... aber genau so wurde das unsererseits aufgefasst...

[ILoveThisGame]

German Refs are worse than the DODS Refs you saw here in Germany JD! At least they are consistent...ly bad LOL From my experience over the past few years, either they are too harsh (i.e some BS ejections the past few years) or they let the game get away, which sounds like what happened last weekend, I don't know, I wasn't there. Bottom-line though, the officiating I have seen with Wiesbaden the past few weeks has not been too bad, but I have seen HORRIBLE games! The game should be settled by the players on the fields and not the Refs!

With that said, You are right, Stuttgart is 1 and 1 and in 3rd place currently, but saying "better team" ala Rooster...you've got to beat somebody first before you say that a 2nd League Rookie is a better team than a 2nd League Veteran ala kirchdorf! Konningsbrunn doesn't count, they should have been playing in the 3rd league 2 seasons ago when Jena fell, and Kirchdorf forgot to show up TWICE last season versus Konningsbrunn or they were neck and neck with Hanau/Aschaffensburg!

[jdl33]

German Refs are worse than the DODS Refs you saw here in Germany JD! At least they are consistent...ly bad LOL From my experience over the past few years, either they are too harsh (i.e some BS ejections the past few years) or they let the game get away, which sounds like what happened last weekend, I don't know, I wasn't there. Bottom-line though, the officiating I have seen with Wiesbaden the past few weeks has not been too bad, but I have seen HORRIBLE games! The game should be settled by the players on the fields and not the Refs!

With that said, You are right, Stuttgart is 1 and 1 and in 3rd place currently, but saying "better team" ala Rooster...you've got to beat somebody first before you say that a 2nd League Rookie is a better team than a 2nd League Veteran ala kirchdorf! Konningsbrunn doesn't count, they should have been playing in the 3rd league 2 seasons ago when Jena fell, and Kirchdorf forgot to show up TWICE last season versus Konningsbrunn or they were neck and neck with Hanau/Aschaffensburg!

I hear ya....Just hope we can make some plays this week during crunch time because I think the game this week should show us and all the doubters exactly where we stand at this point.

[ILoveThisGame]

They are an explosive Team JD. Their press report says that Starzengruber is with them this weekend which 2 years ago was one of the best WR in the 2nd League. They are explosive enough without him. The Defense will have to force turnovers which is going to be tough since they have a very Smart QB who takes what the Defense gives. He took a beating in Wiesbaden, but was still making plays in the 4th Quarter. Hazel is their biggest running threat as well, his Europlayers account shows him making lots of plays with his feet. Defensively, they are not a big team, but a fast team. I think they struggle with a power running game. Wiesbaden ran right at them the first half and moved the ball. The 2nd Half, they made adjustments and really stopped Wiesbaden's running attack, all but the first drive. Toure Butler is by far the best player on the Defense. The American DE was also very good. The LB's missed a lot of tackles and is a weakness. Their secondary is very good, very fast, but Wiesbaden was able to pass the ball. Special Teams Coverage is a weakness, but they have explosive returners, they are a threat to return for a TD every Punt/Kick!